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GUEST EDITORIAL: What's So Bad About Steering?

My shop actually benefits from steering and would probably be out of business without it. So what's the big deal?

12/11/2009

Richard Lata
For those who think steering is a bad thing, I have to say that I totally disagree. We have a collision repair center that benefits from the steering process, and if it wasn’t for steering, we most likely would be out of business.

Our shop opened in early 2000. Even though we didn’t know anyone in the market area, we chose it purposefully, keeping in mind that the most efficient way to market our business was as a recommended collision repair center.

Driving a total of two hours to and from the shop every day, plus experiencing some weeks where I had only one or two vehicles to repair, a quick dose of reality set in fast. I knew I had to go out and get more work – and I had to do it soon. So we focused on what insurance companies wanted and went from a no-name shop to a preferred shop on the steering lists we’re talking about.

I think these complainers I’ve been reading about who think steering is wrong are way off base. We’re in a time when only the strong will survive. It was an absolute must for us to comply and come on board with these insurer programs if we wanted to be successful and make our business grow and strengthen over the years. Today, we do business with several insurance companies – some a lot more than others.

Not everything has been rosy with insurers, however. We did have to part ways with a very large insurance company due to the discounts we were expected to give it and the same discounts we were then expected to give to one of our largest suppliers of business. Thinking long-term, we realized this particular insurer had to go. Sure, we’re doing less work now, but we’re more profitable overall and that’s what it’s
all about.

Without steering, you have to rely too much on local advertising, which is very costly. I see it as a choice: Either pay more for advertising or comply with insurers. At least by complying with all our insurance companies, our retention rates are much better.

Most importantly, we’re on that preferred list of centers to make those repairs that will arrive at our shop tomorrow. It’s not a guarantee to repair but a referral to sell your services and shop to that customer. If the customer doesn’t like you or feel comfortable leaving his or her vehicle, it really doesn’t matter how he or she came about calling your shop or stopping by for an estimate.

Isn’t it steering when a backyard shop (or any shop, for that matter) says, “I’ll fix your car and save your deductible”? How about those dealership body shops  that say, “If you don’t fix your car here, you’ll void your warranty”? I’ve heard that one from customers. Or, how about the adjuster who doesn’t like you but does like the guy up the road who says, “If you bring your car to me, I’ll buff that scratch for free”? Steering can be interpreted in all kinds of ways. Ask yourself, “What’s in it for me?” You want the same things the insurance companies want.

The names are different and the procedures are somewhat different, but the practice of steering is working well for those who are participating. There are some insurance companies I would like to do work for, but I can’t get them to call me back. That doesn’t mean I hate steering but that I really have to work harder for their business – and it may take years to get it.
Just like body shops, insurance companies are in business to profit and save money where they can. Believe it or not, that can be done without compromising a repair. Sure, there can be disagreements over a possible repair process, but in the end the vehicle gets what was needed to make a good, safe, quality and warrantable repair.

There are plenty of things I don’t like about this business and would like to change. I’m just a working man on Main Street, and there’s no bailout money for any poor decisions I or any of us make. And I’m surely not going to wait for changes or something better. Even with all that steering, we’ve struggled more so this year than any other. The wrecks are out there, but customers are choosing to hold off on repairing now if they’re able. So we do what’s needed to survive.

I don’t see how a collision center can do well without some type of steering unless that center is doing other types of repairs. We welcome any and all potential repairs steered our way, and we continue to entertain the possibility of growing the list of insurance companies we work with if and when the opportunity comes around. We thank insurers for the business we do get and we appreciate it every day. And we’ll do what’s needed to continue partnering with these companies for years to come.

Richard Lata is owner of Martinsville Collision in Martinsville, Va. He can be reached at rwlata@comcast.net.
Submit a Comment    Comments (35)
Comment by:
David Dessauer
12/29/2009
12:39 PM
What's so bad? Playing pig is what so bad. Lets see how much work you can get on your own with out steering. I'v been in businesss since 1970. How about working your way up like most of us did. One day your friends that are feeding you will pull the rug out from under you and lets see what so bad then.
 
Comment by:
David Dessauer
12/29/2009
12:18 PM
What's so bad? Playing pig is what so bad. Lets see how much work you can get on your own with out steering. I'v been in businesss since 1970. How about working your way up like most of us did. One day your friends that are feeding you will pull the rug out from under you and lets see what so bad then.
 
Comment by:
Flyboy
12/25/2009
9:48 AM
Lets face it folks, the world has changed in the last 15 years. Customers today are upwardly mobile, on-line, and want it Now. Expectations have changed in this fast paced economy. The consumer is educated and understands the benefits of having their vehicle repaired under a "program" that will guarantee the work and their satisfaction. They neither have time, nor do they want to go shopping for estimates. There are some very good DRP programs out there with very high quality standards and there are of course some not so good. Are there some outstanding shops that do not participate in any programs, you bet there are. I think if you look at the non-program shops in some middle to small markets you'll find one or two stand outs that have built their business on their reputation over the last 15-20 years, the others are, lets face it, probably poor performers. In most DRP programs, If a shop is going to participate they must have all the "tools" to get the job done right, quickly, and cost effectively. We can all debate how you arrive at cost effective, but at the end of day that's the name of the game. The DRP programs vary in quality just as the shops do. If you got one demanding all sorts of discounts and your business can't support that type of profit margin than don't play. I would be very selective who I align my business with, and if your not one of those "15-20 reputation established shops" you need to be aligned with someone or you're probably not going to survive unless you have some sort of specialty niche. Change is good, our industry needs to get off center and work with the changes that have taken place and are sure to continue. The days repairing a vehicle "without insurance footing the bill" are long gone. I hate pink, however, if the market dictated that the only way you could by groceries was to where pink, what would you do?
 
Comment by:
kevin
12/23/2009
6:53 PM
Did Mr Latta choose a location 2 hours away from his home so it would be less likely to run into his customers at the local Walmart?
 
Comment by:
GMJS
12/21/2009
11:36 AM
I to do not like the steering process. However, our shop has benefited in one way, that is developing a customer client base. It does not matter how many customers you recieve thru this process, if you are not honest, and do not do quality work it is still a one time customer who cannot be steered your way again. I have seriously thought to drop DRP's, but I want the client base. I am proud that we keep 90% of the customers we take care of. This turns into a referral system that we gain even more customers from and acutally make money. I only have a couple of DRP insurance compainies and get very little grief from them. No industry has a level playing field, so we just have to do the best we can with what we have to work with.
 
Comment by:
Bill "Your Car Your Choice"
12/18/2009
5:32 PM
What happen to... Doing the job right and they will tell others. Always stand up for the customer and repair always at the top standard/s
 
Comment by:
kenny
12/18/2009
11:12 AM
What an idiot. Blinded by his own greed.
 
Comment by:
B.J.
12/18/2009
11:08 AM
WOW! I like being told what to do thats why I started my own business! (Just kidding) I have 1 drp dont really like it they have come really close to loosing my shop and when they do there will never be a drp in my shop again I dont like been told what to do and I dont like taking photos of the work process just to get paid. Its like where is the trust of course there are alot of shops that would steel the insurer blind if they had a chance. We all just need to grow some and throw the drps out and then the good and honest strong will servive and for the rest of you that use knee pads just go get a job at a real shop!
 
Comment by:
Rod Northrop
12/18/2009
10:23 AM
What is this idiot smoking "crack "ive seen more shops go down because of steering and they were top quality shops.That believed in doing the work the right way and not letting a estimator who has a college degree in basket weaving tell a professional body man how to do it.Let the suck assess on DRPS die a slow death with thier shody substandard repairs they have to do to keep thier insurance companies happy. The ones. we AMERICANS had to bail out. I keep telling my students someday a body shop tech will be respected and make decent money again
 
Comment by:
harold
12/18/2009
12:40 AM
as I said in my letter to Mr.Lata, if your going to go down...(sexual sense) please don't take my industry with you. (literal sense)
 
Comment by:
Jack Sheen
12/17/2009
10:31 PM
The reason DRPs were created was for the sole purpose to control the collision repair industry. The insurance industry believes that if they can control,(steer) their policy holders to their controlled (DRP) shops,they will strangle the noncontrolled shops. Thats when they can really bring the hammer down on this industry. No more free enterprise in this business! THATS WHY STEERING IS ILLEGAL. The law is there not only to protect your customer but this industry as well. Everyone, DRPs included, should fight the steering practices of the insurance companies. The only concern the insurance companies have for us collision repairs is how soon can they get our heads in their vise.
 
Comment by:
Ross
12/17/2009
9:55 PM
I am a DRP for a few Insurance companies but, one thing that i do not let them due is run my business. I repair the cars the way that I feel is best for my customers not for the insurance company. I fight and argue with my reinspectors every day. Altough I do not win every battle, I win more than I lose. I find that fighting them as a DRP works as well.
 
Comment by:
scott
12/17/2009
8:53 PM
the people or shops that dont like steering if thats what its called is the shops that dont have any work for certain reasons..lets face it its nice when work comes to you..who want to chase workfix cars correctly have a good reputation and you can become a drp..longevity
 
Comment by:
Truman "continued"
12/17/2009
4:52 PM
Mr. Lata, I encourage you to ask each customer that is steered your way if YOUR SHOP was their first choice. If you have any integrity, honesty and decency you will inform the customer they have the right to choose. How can you say "only the strong survive". What have you done to EARN your place in this business? All I see is a guy who opened a shop and took the easy way out. Your own words should scare the hell out of you and cause you to change your practices....."My shop actually benefits from steering and would probably be out of business without it." Pray you don't get dropped.
 
Comment by:
Truman Fancher III
12/17/2009
4:46 PM
Kevin, that all depends on who's doing the "referring" and why. One who refers for no gain of their own doesn't fit your saying. Insurers refer because THEY benefit from it. Mr. Lata is the perfect example of the problem with our industry. I don't want to earn a reputation, I want to a free one. The old saying you should be referring to is the one about being so bad/new/etc you must tie a pork chop (DRP agreement) around your neck to get the dogs (Insurers) to play with you. It's certainly more appropriate in Mr. Lata's case IMO. This is the epitome of "collision collusion" as Danny Wyatt coined it. There is no free market when it comes to collision repairs. Consumers are coerced, threatened and intimidated by insurance companies to go to their "preferred" shops. Prices are fixed, shops capitulate and Mr. and Mrs. Consumer has the collision industry to thank for their problems. This industry owes the consumer a huge apology. Mr. Lata needs a clue. Mr. Lata, I encourage you to ask each steered customer if you
 
Comment by:
Wade Ebert
12/17/2009
2:11 PM
It appears - our industry has begun, ever so slowly, to find its soul again. Hard lessons learned after we handed the keys to our livelihoods off to the very same industry that ruined our economy. 1800 shops confirmed gone this last year. Actually - I was told many many more. One source who does monthly mailings told me the number returned "undeliverable" was 400 in most months. Some of the biggest among the "insurance friendly" are gone. One or two more rounds of that may suffice to reinforce for whom it is we really work. We are at a crossroads people. A place where we will part ways with those who act as though the insurer is their master. We work for the folks that turn the keys in the ignition. It really is that simple. When we depart from that - is where we get into trouble. Hope to see many of you at the Northeast Conference in March. It should be interesting. Wade Ebert American Auto Body Springfield IL. President AASPI
 
Comment by:
dman
12/17/2009
2:05 PM
Holy Cow is this guy clueless!! Take all of the steering away...will he survive? Of course not..he needs people to give him work rather than get it himself. Heres a thought...why dont the insurance companies ask the customer where they want to go? Insurance DRP's are the death of a buisness and it will be the death of his.
 
Comment by:
wes
12/17/2009
2:02 PM
drps rock,we make killer profits without cutting corners,my family, my techs family's, my jobbers family,s are all greatful to have a quiver of drps ready to pull cars from any shop we can,we are stonger than ever, have the best i-car/ase trained techs,use the best materials and are lovin life,yeah some are better than others, we've made great descisions on who we PARTNER with and the sooner we can put the smaller shops out of bussiness the better.For those shop with no drp,s, keep tryn you'll love the money, sleep at night and not have to worry about your techs jumpn ship when the shop down the street gets more than they can handle in two weeks!
 
Comment by:
dman
12/17/2009
1:58 PM
Holy Cow is this guy clueless!! Take all of the steering away...will he survive? Of course not..he needs people to give him work rather than get it himself. Heres a thought...why dont the insurance companies ask the customer where they want to go? Insurance DRP's are the death of a buisness and it will be the death of his.
 
Comment by:
Scott Baldwin
12/17/2009
1:42 PM
Lata is mostly correct about DRP's. The thing that makes DRP's bad is when they don't let qualified shops in the program. If they would let every qualified shop participate there would be no problem, they would still get what they want and competion would take out the shops that needed to be taken out. Include all qualified shops now!!!
 
Comment by:
Ron Perretta
12/17/2009
12:57 PM
I get a kick out this type of guy. Obviously Lata doesn’t have a clue. Guys like him have put our industry in its current situation. “Advertising is expensive.” This statement shows how clueless this guy is. If this guy is doing a million in sales and doing so by giving concessions such as an hour per repair order, discounts on parts or markups, and maybe rate concessions, he’s giving away roughly $80 to 100 thousand a year. Of course he would disagree with my conclusion but wouldn’t be able to dispute it because he probably doesn’t have a system in place to know. He probably doesn’t know what his average cost of a repair, cycle time, touch time, or CSI is either. His only report card comes from his DRP’s who don’t even know the basis for his numbers. I also suspect that his shop is disorganized and dirty. This guy’s a puppy. Most of us that have been in the business have worked hard for our customer base. It is developed by taking care of the consumer, doing Quality work, understanding our numbers and a
 
Comment by:
Roarke
12/17/2009
12:55 PM
My question to this shop owner is this: Are you and your techs I-CAR certified? ASE Certified? Do you have a frame rack with a computerized measuring system? What kind of concessions do you give to get the work from these insurance companies? I think the concern is not really that the work is not coming to our shop (although that is a close #2) it is that the work is being done in ways that are improper, unsafe...etc. You cant convince us that a shop cannot be run without DRPs...we all know it can be. Is it alot of work? Yes. So that tells me you are not willing to work hard on your business the way the rest of us do. So if you cut corners there...Where else do you cut corners? Ultimately we need to shutdown shops that perform sub-standard repairs. That will solve ALOT of the nasty DRP problem because then the insurance companies will not have a pool of hachet-shops to do that kind of work.
 
Comment by:
Rich Masters
12/17/2009
12:48 PM
Bottom line is that as an industry, we have become insurance company Ho's.(excuse my language). We sold our soles and convinced ourselves that we cannont survive unless we are members of the DRP circus. Unfortunatley, the majority of shops think like Mr. Lata. So the problem will never go away and will only compound itself. The insurance companies LOL at us.
 
Comment by:
Fred
12/17/2009
12:47 PM
One quickly finds out that the honeymoon is over, and the only thing you have is the consemation of the deal made with the companies that you are dealing with. Poor planning on your part put you in the situation you find yourself in. P. S. Don't shake hands with the devil and then say you didn't mean it!
 
Comment by:
YANI
12/17/2009
12:39 PM
I JUST WANT TO THANK THE OWNER OF THIS BUSINESS. WOW WHAT A GREAT ARTICLE. WE JUST NEED MORE IDIOTS LIKE HIM TO HELP OUR CASE AGAINST STEERING, AND TO FORWARD THIS TO ALL INSURANCE COMPANIES......... YOUR DRP JUST TOLD THE TRUTH......
 
Comment by:
Nathan
12/17/2009
12:38 PM
Your first mistake was to open a business without a business plan. This industry is not a field of dreams, where you "build it and they will come". This concept is one of the leading problems in our industry. Everyone wants or wanted to open a body shop, and lets face it statistically we are not the smartest group of people when it comes to making good business decisions. These poor decisions put us at the vulnerability and mercy of any and all customers, not just insurers waiving DRP contracts in our face. In business the best decisions are ones made out of comfortability not out of desperation. "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail."
 
Comment by:
Richard Beirne
12/17/2009
12:33 PM
While I understand Richard Lata's comments, I think it lacks perspective. Of course there are those who benefit from steering right now, but the problem comes later when someone else lowers their standards and their price to become the new preferred shop. The insurance companies want to control the complete process and deny shops a fair and reasonable return on their considerable investment. Insurance companies want to eliminate the consumer choice in favor of sending the business to the lowest bidder. Perhaps it is because Richard has only been in business for a few years and he does not realize that shops are entitled to set their own standards and charge a fair price for what they do. If the customers who pay the insurance want to pick their own shop, they should have that right. Steering works because there are always shop owners to don't mind skipping to the beat of the insurance company in order to get a few scraps of work.
 
Comment by:
John
12/17/2009
12:29 PM
Poor Richard! You just don't get it do you? You are part of the problematic parasites that are imploding the collision industry!! You also must be on board with government run car companies, Unions ruining work ethic, "single payer health care" and that a monopoly or government entity really can improve private industry and create jobs and opportunities! You can't see the slippery slope because you are flying down it! What you don't realize is that there is no one to catch you at the bottom!! Good luck, whore!
 
Comment by:
Paul
12/17/2009
12:28 PM
That's all good for a shop in a small market. But those of us in a large saturated market, during a time when you battle for every dollar, take steering extremely seriously, not only is it against the law, but the shops on some insurers lists have to take short cuts that put the quality of repair and peoples lives in danger. They take these short cuts to make ends meet due to agreements with the insurers. Illegal and dangerous. Martinsville, Va. wake up and fix the car right. It may not be your family in it, but it is somebody's family.
 
Comment by:
John
12/17/2009
12:17 PM
I guess there are whores in Martinsville as well. There is not much of an economy there anyways unless its March or October. C'mon, this measly little shop is no threat to anyone.
 
Comment by:
luis
12/17/2009
12:05 PM
This individual has an ignorant view of the of the collision repair industry. Just yesterday a customer called us because he wanted to bring his vehicle to us for repairs, he talked about how great the quality of our work was ( from prior repair performed on his friend's vehicle). This individual had some concerns, he said the insurance company told him that he would have to take his vehicle to a DRP shop otherwise there would be delays and he would have to pay additional money if there was additional damage. I had to explain his rights and in the end he had his vehicle towed to our shop. These tactis are missleading and an unfair business practice. Steering is bad for the industry as a whole, DRP or no DRP.
 
Comment by:
ken
12/17/2009
11:53 AM
my problem with steering is that in my community, the shops that the work is steered to are cutting way too many corners to make up for the discounts that they have to give the insurance companies. I can understand wanting to save money and how the insurance companies are in the business to make money too, however when they are paid to "adjust" a claim, they should do just that. not try to write the estimate and expect the shop to follow it to a "T" and turn a blind eye to hidden damage or even surface and fitment flaws that come from cheap aftermarket parts. personally, I would love to be on an insurance companies preferred list, but not at the expense of making a customer angry because I couldn't afford to fully restore their vehicle to pre-accident condition. My job is to estimate and repair, their job is to adjust and let the customer decide where to take their car. why not advertise, it's really not that expensive, especially if you're paid what you're worth and not giving the discount to an insuranc
 
Comment by:
Laura Bertolli
12/17/2009
11:53 AM
It is not the steering that is ruining our business per se, but it's the turning over of our industry to the insurance companies. Sure, steering is great in the beginning, but as you found out, the insurance company will continue to squeeze your profits until you have no choice but to drop them or go out of business. The fear of no work keeps you giving more and more just to keep the jobs flowing. I own a profitable shop with NO DRP agreements at all!! It is possible, FYI . . .
 
Comment by:
Pat
12/17/2009
11:41 AM
"Steering" is against the law. Now, if it's okay to break this law and/or other laws, why does our society have laws?
 
Comment by:
Kevin
12/17/2009
11:31 AM
as the saying goes if the job comes to us its a referal, if it goes to some one else it's steering.
 
 
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