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CIC Panel Lists Vehicle Complexity, Training as Top Challenges

1/19/2010 4:10:53 PM

Jason Stahl

Vehicle complexity and training were the two main challenges members of a panel discussion held at the Collision Industry Conference last week in Palm Springs, Calif., said lie ahead for the collision repair industry.

Members of the panel included: Guy Bargnes of Bargnes Associates; Randy Hanson, auto director for Allstate; John Edelen, president and CEO of I-CAR; Aaron Clark, president of Collision Solutions, Indianapolis, Ind.; and Roger Foss, national manager for Toyota Motor Sales USA.

Body shop owner Clark said increasing vehicle complexity is the primary thing that keeps him up at night.

“I worry about repair liability,” he said. “I’m an independent repairer and I can’t gain information on Mercedes, Porsches, Jaguars and Land Rovers. I have to watch the car go to another facility. It’s disappointing that the training isn’t open for these vehicles.”

Making sure technicians do what they’re trained to do is also a major concern for Clark: “Company A says this needs to be done, but Company B says it shouldn’t be done that way. It becomes very confusing with all the different things OEMs say, especially when we get into a large repair. The chance of you doing something incorrect becomes greater, and having the personnel on the floor to police repairs properly is tough.”

Clark also remarked that it’s becoming more difficult to gain new customers, especially since traditional marketing doesn’t work as well as it did in the past. And the number of claim management software applications has his head swimming.

“I’ve seen at least a half dozen of these in the last few years,” Clark said. “It makes it difficult to train existing staff, or if I have turnover, I then have to train people on all these different claims and estimating systems. If this trend continues, we will stop focusing on the car. If I’m running around making sure estimates are being done properly, it takes my eye off the shop floor.”

I-CAR’s Edelen also expressed concerns about vehicle complexity and collision repair shops’ inability to pay for proper training due to profit margins under pressure.

“So there will continue to be an underinvestment in technical development,” Edelen said. “That, combined with the workforce we have access to, the education level of that workforce and the salary level that segment is willing to work for, doesn’t create a very pretty picture.”

Roger Foss of Toyota said increasingly complex vehicles will have more of an impact on mechanical shops than collision, specifically considering the variation of hybrids now being introduced to the market. But collision, he said, will also be impacted by the continued use of high-strength steel and other exotic materials, which will be difficult to identify and repair.

“The trickle-down effect is how do we communicate that effectively to the people who are repairing our cars?” Foss said, adding that 80 percent of Toyota vehicles are repaired by independent repairers.

Allstate’s Randy Hanson echoed the concern about technology, saying that product innovation is happening at a “staggering pace” and wondering how the industry will keep up with training to be able to address those innovations when they hit the market. He also expressed worry about repairers looking for legislative solutions to their problems.

“I believe 95 percent of the problems we address can be solved by the people in this room, yet we don’t have those discussions,” Hanson said. “A lot of [legislators] have no idea what our industry is about.”

Edelen concurred with Hanson, saying that having the government come in and fix all of the collision repair industry’s problems is going to accelerate shops toward licensing and certification.

“God forbid some politician will decide what training we should have and what standards we should live to,” he said. “If we don’t embrace the opportunity we have to solve our own problems, that’s what’s going to happen.”

Guy Bargnes, representing industry suppliers, listed the unsettled economy, reduced repair volume, decreased miles driven, an aging car population, rapid consolidation in all segments, and high unemployment as factors complicating business today. Suppliers, he said, are facing the same challenges as collision repair facilities: reduced margins, reduced profitability and overcapacity.

“How are we going to meet market demand without impacting product quality and product offering?” Bargnes asked. “And how are we going to retain customers and develop new customers but avoid commoditization and making price a differentiator? The solution is strategic partnering between distinct segments that will drive growing customer activity so the supply chain works uniformly and brings customer value.” 


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Submit a Comment    Comments (3)
Comment by:
AutoBodyMan
1/25/2010
10:12 AM
Alldata is information, not training, and training is not certification. Manufacturers such as BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Toyota continue to keep certification tied to dealer facilities or sponsored shops only. Collision Repair information is out there but that certainly does not mean that the shops are using the supplied information correctly.
 
Comment by:
Bill Horvath
1/23/2010
11:02 AM
Shops are getting bigger every year. probably we needed to have more specialty areas. To much is put on one tech. With electronics advancing at a very high rate,painting has completely changed in 20 years, now we have new metals in construction that require special tools & training.Labor rates have to change.When the Insurance Co's recognize this fact they will have to pay. Example I recent had a hearth attack. Now see seeing three specialist and my general practitioner.I realize that our trade isn't as complex as the human body but we are moving in that direction. Even the detailer is in need of more education. probably the lowest payed employee. his presentation makes the difference in a satisfied customer. That's the bottom line.A satisfied customer will keep your business afloat.Unhappy customer will sink you faster then a ice berg.Call it steering but now who is doing the steering. I don't have a problem with certify the tech in respected areas.We need the educate the politician.I would like to see how many accidents are caused by shady repairer ever year.We need customer confidence in are corner we can build that one at a time. Take the fear of loosing there Insurance out of the customer mind.This is another special area.the bodyshop needs a person with law degree. to enplane this to the customer or at lease a good understanding of law.
 
Comment by:
Scott Jurs
1/21/2010
4:39 PM
Vehicle complexity is huge and getting bigger and the only way to know what and how to work on these vehicles is to have OEM Data, Specs and Procedures either from the Manufacturers or a product like Alldata Collision that has all the data, specs and procedures in one place.
 
 
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